YM1510D Stuck in gear

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YM1510D Stuck in gear

Postby Terrence » Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:50 am

YM1510D, 110hrs

The problem I am about to describe happens on and off. I don't know how it solves itself, or what actions cause it.

Say I am moving forward in 1st gear (2), then I clutch to reverse...but it will not physically move into reverse gear.
The tractor keeps moving forward despite having clutch engaged.

Occasionally when this happens, I can move shifter into neutral, but it still stays in 1st.

Thought it was my milky trans fluid. Changed that, but issue did not go away.

Ideas?

Thank you.
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Re: YM1510D Stuck in gear

Postby Aaron » Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:05 am

Are you saying the shift lever will not move to reverse or are you saying the shift lever moves but the transmission stays in 1st gear despite the shifter being in the R position?

Are you using a mower when this happens?

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Re: YM1510D Stuck in gear

Postby Terrence » Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:09 am

I only have a FE Loader, no PTO attachments.

The shifter is physically stuck. I have since gotten it unstuck by messing with it, but the tractor gets in this state on a regular basis.

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Re: YM1510D Stuck in gear

Postby Aaron » Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:14 am

The tractor keeps moving forward despite having clutch engaged.

The shifter is physically stuck.


These are two seemingly unrelated problems. I can't think of anything that would cause both of these symptoms. I could see if it was a gear transmission maybe the torque would make it hard to shift but a powershift shift lever is just basically a hydraulic valve.

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Re: YM1510D Stuck in gear

Postby Terrence » Wed Oct 28, 2020 3:09 pm

I am finally able to start working on these problems.

>>The tractor keeps moving forward despite having clutch engaged.
Could this be the clutch plate is stuck to the pressure plate?


>>The shifter is physically stuck.
Could this be the one or more of the forks are out of whack?

2 separate issues, I guess I should create 2 separate posts?

I seem to remember finding some posts of pictures of what the forks look like and how they should be placed back into position, but can't find those posts.

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Re: YM1510D Stuck in gear

Postby winston » Wed Oct 28, 2020 5:02 pm

>>The tractor keeps moving forward despite having clutch engaged.
Could this be the clutch plate is stuck to the pressure plate?

Would be impossible for the tractor to move without the clutch being engaged. You have a clutch problem. Is your pedal adjustment correct? Yes, the clutch could be stuck.

>>The shifter is physically stuck.

which shifter, range shift or power shift? https://www.hoyetractor.com/CTGY/YM1510 ... FTCONT.htm

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Re: YM1510D Stuck in gear

Postby Terrence » Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:07 pm

winston wrote:Is your pedal adjustment correct? Yes, the clutch could be stuck.


Yes, movement is a bit less than 1".

The tractor has 115 hrs on it, but does not get a bunch of use.

Is my only option to break the tractor in 2 and unstick the clutch?

Thank you for your help.
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Re: YM1510D Stuck in gear

Postby Terrence » Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:09 pm

winston wrote:which shifter, range shift or power shift?


Sorry Winston it is the Power Shift Lever, 16.

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Re: YM1510D Stuck in gear

Postby winston » Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:17 am

I would check pin #18 in the drawing. I have read of more than one with extreme wear on that pin causing shifting problems. Take a close look at all the hinge points.

As far as the clutch goes: "IF" the tractor continues to move with the clutch pedal depressed then the clutch is stuck. Might read through this thread for ideas in freeing it up. viewtopic.php?f=1&t=413&p=1217&hilit=unsticking+clutch#p1217

I doubt the 115 hours is accurate for a 40 year old tractor. Not matter, many of them out there still chugging away.

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Re: YM1510D Stuck in gear

Postby Terrence » Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:32 am

winston wrote:As far as the clutch goes: "IF" the tractor continues to move with the clutch pedal depressed then the clutch is stuck. Might read through this thread for ideas in freeing it up. viewtopic.php?f=1&t=413&p=1217&hilit=unsticking+clutch#p1217


Thanks Winston, great thread on stuck clutch. I will give some of those suggestions a try.

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Re: YM1510D Stuck in gear

Postby Terrence » Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:30 pm

He towed me no more than two feet and the clutch freed up.


From that thread.

How will I know the clutch has become unstuck if I am being pulled along for a couple of seconds or feet? I guess I will hear it pop?

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Re: YM1510D Stuck in gear

Postby winston » Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:30 pm

I'm not sure pulling the powershift would be the way to go. I would crank it and try to push a tree down or do the trick with the mower. Remember to have the pedal pushed down when trying to unstick it. If it comes unstuck things will stop turning.

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Re: YM1510D Stuck in gear

Postby Terrence » Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:05 pm

Ok I have the clutch peddle in and locked with the locking mechanism.

I am able to push and pull the tractor when it is off and in gear. I would not expect to be able to do that. Is this because it is a powershift?

When I start the tractor, it lurches forward and drives. (As you mentioned this proves my clutch is stuck).

I drove up to a stump and put my bucket against it and drove and just dug ruts in the ground. Finally stalled.

I guess I need to do this some more, preferably on concrete so it won't slip so much.

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Edit: Update
Went out and pushed against the truck hitch on concrete and the wheels just kept spinning.
Hit the brakes and motor kept running but wheels stops spinning.
Clutch still stuck.

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Re: YM1510D Stuck in gear

Postby winston » Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:48 pm

"Went out and pushed against the truck hitch on concrete and the wheels just kept spinning.
Hit the brakes and motor kept running but wheels stops spinning.
Clutch still stuck."

Don't understand this? What gear were you in?

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Re: YM1510D Stuck in gear

Postby Terrence » Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:36 pm

winston wrote:"Went out and pushed against the truck hitch on concrete and the wheels just kept spinning.
Hit the brakes and motor kept running but wheels stops spinning.
Clutch still stuck."
Don't understand this? What gear were you in?


Well as far as I can tell, I can only get into gear 1 (top shifter) whether I am in the bottom gear 1,2 or 3.
So I have tried this in 1 top,1 bottom and 1 top ,2 bottom gears, results the same.

(I don't want to pollute this thread with my gear shifting issues unless you think it is relevant)

I am trying to "push a tree down" by putting my bucket up against a truck with its brakes on (stationary object, don't want to harm any of my trees).

As I approach and hit the "stationary object", I obviously stop because the tractor can not move the stationary object and the wheels just spin.
We are expecting the clutch to break free, but it does not.

The clutch peddle is depressed and locked down.

Thank you Winston for helping me with this.


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